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PostPosted: 02 Oct 2008, 00:12 
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Your car: 1984 AA customer paint and some small custome body mods
hey guys i will be moving soon and when do i will be setting up an spray both in my garage.
i am a panel beater/painter by trade so if you have any question just ask. i have my papers if you really wanna see them lol

ok the price include small dints, metal finish i am a specialist's in but it does take up a lot of time and cost a bit more depending on the dent and the job you want done i will give you a quote if you like.
rust is a whole new story, i hate it but it can be done . however it will always come back unless you strip your whole car back after all the metal work has been done thats means $$

cheap half ass full respray for $$700 depending. this with a cut will work nice but nothing like a job that you take your time with and enjoy

good job $600 for front end's
$200 for single panel, suck as roof, gaured, bumper, quarters will be a bit more because the amount of paint may be $250
half car, such as guard,door,quarter and sill 600 depending.
full respray for a nice finish 1400 depending on what you looking for.

full cut and polish to get off any imperfections 160. that includes block back all the paint for a flat mirror Finnish, show car style, also blow out and clean of your car 2 guys

body kits can be done just let me know and i can quote you.

depending on the paints you use the price will vary. 2 pack is the way to go looks great and last for like 15 years.
acrylics cost a lot more and are a lot of stuffing around with for a worse finish and its cost about twice the amount.
pearls can be done and candy but i am still trying out new things with that. i have had very good test runs. but all depends on how many shades you want to see

BTW i am in Melb SE subs, your help would be needed to keep the price low.
PM me for any question if ya like

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Let me know when your set up,
I need some work done but its not a cordia, Front quater and bumper

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How much for a full good respray?

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hmmm sounds pretty awesome!!! good to know :)

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like i said 1500 + all depends on what you want done guys

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What type of paint are you using acrylic or bake enamel?
What's the brand?
Does 1,500 cover the cost of reparing dents or rust?
If not , how much to complete paint strip and file finish the hole car including repair minor rust

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Your car: 1984 AA customer paint and some small custome body mods
2 pack mate.
enamil is shit i would never use it ever ever.

full metal finish and paint strip will take me about 3 months long long job rust repair and all i would say 5g may be more depending on the car. that kinda stuff is only if you really want the car to last over 100 year you would wax it all down befor its painted every little crack would have to be cleaned up.

do you want a full resto or somthing??

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You do realize, that 2 pack is bake enamel.
The air dry enamel that's crap people normally use it on ,like the forklifts ,scissor lifts, etc
To last 100 year that is the Question?
It all comes down to preparation and what brand of paint,like Dupon,,PPG,glasurit ,etc
Unless you have your car under closed doors without taking it for a spin then yes 100 years.
But if you drive it every day ,5 years tops.
Just wondering how can you do a respray for $700.00 or $1400?
That only cover the paint cost.
Used to be a shop in Sydney called 1 day autopaints and they used to charge 700 bucks.
It work for 1 month then they closed down to many come backs.
Be very careful how you charge people cause it will bite you back.
You said acrylics cost a lot more and are a lot of stuffing around with for a worse finish and its cost about twice the amount.
I disagree in paint cost its less then half of 2 pack,it does take a lot of buffing .
2 pack does hold the shine for a longer time as acrylic you would have to wax it every month to hold the shine.
But I'm in Sydney maybe the prices are different in Melbourne

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if 2 pac is baked enamel please tell me how 2 pac was a late 80's to early 90,s paint and baked enamel was what cowboys painted there horse and cart with. how can they be the same


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Well lets see I started my apprentiship when I was 18 or 17 ,which was 1984 or 83.
At the time there was Dulon it was the most used acrylic paint at the time.
We also had Eurocrul and Eurobase 2 pack I belive it came out in 1970's, on to the market ,baked enamel or 2pack became famous after all Japanese cars came out from factory in baked enamel ,basically 2pack stands for 2 parts,solid base + activator that needs to bake around 60 degrees for 30 min you can let it air dry but it want cure as fast as baking..
Dulon brought out 2pack called Dulux and now we call it PPG.
As for house hold or what we call Air dry enamel paints you can spray your car with it cause its cheap.
You get good gloss, but you can not buff imperfections on the paint and its a harder material ,you get fry ups when you try to fix a scratch, you can use activator on air dry enamels to make it go off quicker but its crap hard to work with.
Acrylic nothing wrong with it ,all you need is thinners don't need to bake it.
Perfect for home jobs, but it needs to be cut back and buffed,it looks better then 2pack when its done but it needs to be waxed every month to hold its gloss.
As for 2pack or baked enamel it pretty much like air dry, but you can buff imperfections its much faster it dries in 30 mins you can put the car back together .
And it holds it gloss but it comes out peely of the gun, unless it gets flow coated or cut back and buffed but cause its hard material it will take much much longer to buff then acrylic .
Ok I can tell you this for me personally I don't like to flow coat.
Cause your adding more material to the panel.
For the best application is the less material the better.

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Your car: 1984 AA customer paint and some small custome body mods
your right Acrylic has nothing wrong with it but it does take twice as long and a lot more tome to prep up its a pain in the but. thats y i do not wanna use it i like to keep things simple.
and with 2 pac like you said every 1 would be happy it hold the shine for a dam long time and looks better over all.
i have work for a lot of different panel shops over the years and they all you different paints. from my opinion 2 pay is the way to go for any racer.
you get the look you want and it is cheaper, flow coting is not the way to go like you say you can get bad runs and you end up with heaps of paint on your panel no good it will crack thats y i offer the op of buffing out this what you get your show room Finnish that will last for years.
i have worked for woods they only use ppg acrylic they are a half ass company that only care about making it look good 2 get out the door
i worked for super Finnish prestige stuff only they use 2 pac only glasurit on BMW's and all sorts of hi end stuff they give a life time finish unlike woods thats 3 years only
then i worked for racv they use both 2 pac and a Acrylic ppg depending on the car but then again only 3 years.
i like 2 pac holden still use it on there new cars you can buy there unused paints of ebay its grate.
i am doing it cheap atm because i am trying to set my self up a bit let the word go round then depending on the jop and car i hope i will be able 2 make a bit more.
a $700 job would only be a buzz back and paint fixing scratches and small dents. its cheap because you would be doing all the stripping fitting i am not pulling much apart for that price and i would only make 150 from the job that just enough 2 pay for power and tape and paper.
$1400 i would probley only make 400 max for 2 full days work its more work and a better finish and a lot more time preping would be taken. the job is about 90% prep and 10% paint its lots of work and money.
and i hope that doing jobs cheap atm i will get some more work if they want custom stuff done or smashes. atm i am just setting my self up and trying to find interest.
i have done some jobs for mates and this is about what i charge them, prices may change in the future depending on what happens i wanna end up starting my own panel shop down the track for performance cars i just thought this was a good way 2 start. so atm you really are getting mates rates
the panel trade atm is ship they pay like dogs and treat you even worse so y not try and beat them i say
i may not be making much but its a start so if you don't want a panel shop making 3000 of a re spray come round and we can work some thing out.

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Your car: 1984 AA customer paint and some small custome body mods
i really wanna do some custom cordia stuff as well so if you want round tail light or wide quarters just ask, n not fiber glass stuff metal weld on.
or how about a body drop for that real low look hehe

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As you can see I've probably been in the trade before you were born
And my first choice in getting work would be caryard work.
Simple reason easy money, can use cheap material as long it looks good for 2-4weeks and most importantly it want come back to bite you in the Ass.
As for me I've been doing prestige work all my trade life.
Started at Bill cini prestige automotive repairs used to be at victoria road Marrickville Sydney, all the work was restorations at the time ,I was young didn't mind hard work at the time now I hate it, we use to do celebrities cars like John Laws.
Started and Finished my apprentiship there, the owner decided to close down as he was old wanted to retire.
I moved to Cabramatta motor body repairs huge shop there was 9 painters there 3 booths I became well known through all paint companies like Spies Hecker, standox,
I was the first successful painter at the time to use water based paint for spies hecker
As every one else had problems with the application of water base,so the Boss Frank
decides to give me a full restoration of Kamahl, the singer Rolls Royce, it look great .

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Your car: 1984 AA customer paint and some small custome body mods
thats awsum mate sounds like you have had a grate career i only hope i can do the same.
i like the idea of doing resto work as well there is something about bring a car back to life its grate fun.
yeh car yars would be good but it wont give me the name i want, i don't wanna just do slap up jobs i wanna do some real neat stuff ya know i have a few mates that are in the same boat and are really keen to do the same thing.
so we hope to start out like this and open up shop later down the track with some good work behind us.
i don't mind working hard mate i worked 2 jobs every day of my apprentaship 15 hours a day just to get by and pay bills.
but the money they offer for the work you do is not on. i wanna beat them at there owen game y not

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Good luck with it mate.
But working for free doesn't pay the bills!
At those prices you need bulk not quality.
If you need a name for your self you need quality.
Its a tuff industry to compete in ,example NRMA pays 31 buck hour for panel shop ,
For mechanic shop 70-80 bucks hour
How they work that out I don't no!!

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