And not taken as one, in fact I admire your responses as they are backed up.
smokincordia wrote:
As above this is not an attack either...but if what you are saying is that installing 17's on a GSR has pretty much made the turbo null and void in terms of power, would that not mean that when i put 17's on my already gutless N/A 4g93 it would all but virtually stop? And for the even more gutless 1.5 N/A Lancer's would they even be able to move from stationary?
Put it this way, he has not mentioned any forms of flat spotting, hesitation, detonation or stalling, therefore none has been considered. I am hardly saying the 17’s will make the turbo null and cause a loss in all terms of power, as it won’t and it doesn’t. In addition, he has not stated the car does not hit boost in 3 rd gear onwards. Though, he has stated (over the phone) what I believe are the effects of not enough power to, I guess you could say, give enough pull in those gears to satisfy his needs/wants, fudge that sounds dirty
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smokincordia wrote:
Sorry to be a sceptic of what you've said, but I don't believe that 17's is the reason that the car has no power in 3rd upwards. Correct me if I'm wrong but a standard GSR's peak torque figure was not i first gear. Thus, by your estimations you would assume that first and second would be the worst of the gears for power and 3rd/4th you would see the better performance while hitting peak torque?
And I agree, the cordias peak torque figure is not in first or second gear (I never said this), as it is recorded at the flywheel during some stage of its RPM. Though, the effects of torque are greatly felt in the lower gears, due to their turning effect. This is why cars have greater ability to break traction in lower gears.
smokincordia wrote:
Much like you have pointed out that a faulty actuator would affect all gears not just 3rd up, correct me if I'm wrong but your formula is based on constants without allowance for the unexplained opposite result that 1st and 2nd have?
Correct, the formula has nothing to with the opposite result, it was merely stated as an overall effect with a little sarcasim. Though, the turning effect of those gears is why I believe there is no problem here. Third in my cordias have been quite long (even in low range), don’t know about the rest of them.
smokincordia wrote:
Not denying that bigger wheels may impact the functioning of a car, just strongly believe that the affect would not be comparable to what is happening to this GSR (otherwise half the members of this forum would be whinging and I would be pushing my Lancer up hills not drive it
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Reason as to why half the members on this forum don’t complain is that 99% of them have modified cars. I like Tatus started with a 1.8 cordia (my previous car) and same thing happened to me, fitted bigger rims and it was pretty useless in third, fourth and fifth. By this I mean it had a lot less pull in these gears and not it had no power at all.
Hope this clears some of this up