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 Post subject: Re: The defect 2.0
PostPosted: 05 Aug 2012, 18:05 
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Looks like the fuel rails on the gsr gallants
Are on same angle so not gonna work with that
Either. But the hyundai sonata ones are
On the same angle. But the rail looks a lot skinner
Dunno if it'll work might mount diff too :(

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PostPosted: 05 Aug 2012, 18:18 
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I had this problem also........you need to find one off an DOHC CB Lancer........I think I might even have a spare in the shed. :)


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PostPosted: 05 Aug 2012, 19:40 
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Ok I'll have a look at wreckers gotta go
Back there next weekend. I'll have a squizz
See if they got any. If you have a spare one
What'd you want for it? Thanks

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got an aus spec fuel rail and elbow
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swapped the injectors over from my rail to the aussie one
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whacked it in clears the tps hooray.
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just have to find some spacers to take up the extra thread on the throttle body bolts to plenum
make up the tps adaptor, think the colours are the same pretty much.
the idle control motor, seems to have the same colour wires also, just gotta check all lines up the same
clips in to connector which is a start
left the original fuel pressure reg on the aus rail, would the jap and aus ones be same? have they got same injectors?,
think there both blue for memory.
one fuel reg is a denso 1381, and denso 1382 on other. wonder if any diff?
also might have to bend my metal pipe to the fuel rail at fuel filter end, hits on the bracket from crank angle sensor
to plenum also :(

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PostPosted: 12 Aug 2012, 20:17 
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today bought some 10mm tubing,
to make up some spacers, to take up the extra thread on plenum and plenum bolts
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made up some new water hoses, yes on diff angle too :(
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and gave the fuel hose fitting some gentle tap to change angle of
it not so doesn't hit on the bracket.
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also made up a tps adaptor, from hyundai sonata tps end connector and n/a galant tps connector
(so don't have to hack up my loom more than already is) hopefully hooked it up right
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finally the sob is back on, just gotta whack more coolant in put bov piping back on
then its fun solenoid time :(

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PostPosted: 12 Aug 2012, 21:02 
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 Post subject: Re: The defect 2.0
PostPosted: 13 Aug 2012, 20:44 
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Yea getting there been a slow process tho.
and thanks again for all your help and the
Parts too.

Been fun most of time working on
It. And always learning too. May even try to get blue one back
On road too. See what happens aye. Depending if
The main chassis can be repaired by an
Engineer. But that may be quite expensive.

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 Post subject: Re: The defect 2.0
PostPosted: 13 Aug 2012, 20:51 
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Not too sure about the alloy "dowel" on the throttle body..........they may "rattle" loose............why not buy new bolts 10mm shorter?

Regency may even pick on it. :(


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PostPosted: 13 Aug 2012, 20:58 
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Yea could get some more bolts. Prob a good idea
The injector rail ones where same thread
But we're bit short cos had few extra thought
I'd try them.

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um also found that the idle speed control motor connector
different, it plugs in to bottom of auspec throttlebody, top 3 colours are colour
but the white and green wires are in opposite position. should i make another adaptor
to switch these around to auspec config? thats assuming they have kept the colour wires the same???

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PostPosted: 19 Aug 2012, 13:26 
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I would swap the green and white wires around........you should be able to insert a small screwdriver into the retaining clip to let it go from the connector.


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PostPosted: 19 Aug 2012, 15:06 
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Yea I have some spare connectors I've
Been practicing on. I alway stuff up the
Clips. Maybe I need a better screw driver. Lol.
Thanks. I'll give it ago

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PostPosted: 19 Aug 2012, 18:33 
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Managed to unclip the green wire on my loom
But the white is being a sob.
Butchered the clip to much now to lift it up

So gave up on that. And whacked the
Bov pipe back on. Put some vaccum
Cups over the emission ports for now
Just need to top up coolant and get that
Sob white wire out, then hopefully should
Be able to run it again to see if I installed
It right. But stuff isn't really coming together
This weekend so next weekend it is.

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Connected ev thing up, topped up coolant
Blocked of all the emission nipples and egr
Nipples.

Try to start it idles at 500rpm really rough
Like on three cylinders. And could smell
A burning smell. Like burning resistor or something
Sniffed around maybe from the inside air flow meter dunno.
One step forward 3 steps backs. Guess will
Have to pull all loom back out and ecu and see
What I have now destroyed :( grrr.

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PostPosted: 27 Aug 2012, 01:33 
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Got the multimeter out today.
First checked the throttle closed
Switch Yeap meters to ground when
Throttle closed. Said it was pin 14 on the
U.S ecu pin outs I have. Said it green
Wire.
But on my j spec setup (8618 dual board ecu e39a EPROM) it's a black wire and
Pin 6. Meters as would expect when open and close
Throttle.

Checked my tps wiring. Green/black wire to -ve of tps
And sensor grounds pins 24 and 17 of ecu
Green/red wire +ve of tps to pin 23 of ecu.
Green/white to pin 19 of ecu and labelled 0
On tps. That all looks ok. I think.

So metered my old throttle body tps
Metered resistance between Green/red and green/ black wires
About 4.68k on jspec ( doesn't change with throttle movement)
Aspec was around same 4.70k

Green/white and green/black
Closed throttle 1.02k on j spec. Aspec 970ohms
Full throttle 5.16k on jspec. Aspec 4.93k

Green/white and green red
Closed throttle 4.63k jspec. 4.50k aspec
Full throttle 450ohms jspec. Aspec 190ohms
Roughly the same so think that's ok.

So metered resistance of the idle control motor pins.
Off my jspec throttle body
The top 3 pins. Blue wire to yellow 60 ohms
Blue to red 30 ohms yellow to red 30ohms
same readings for bottom 3 wires green, white, red etc

Then did same for the aspec idle control motor( top 3 wires)
Yellow to blue 120 ohms
Yellow to red 50 ohms blue to red 70 ohms

Bottom 3 green to white 60 ohms. Green to red 30 ohms
Red to white 30ohms
Bottom seems ok compared to jspec one
I think that's the fault the coils of the
Motor have gone high. Dunno if it was always
Faulty or it didn't like me swapping the green and
White wires around. But the faulty measurement
Is on the yellow and blue which I didn't swap
Hmm.

Can anyone confirm these measurements of
The aspec idle control motor???
Does anyone have one? Looks like I'll need
Another one. It's brown plastic in colour. Will
Put a pic up later of what looks like.

Was thinking maybe could get one of some other
Mitsubishi the NA gallants look same as the
Jspec ones. But what other mitsis have coil
Packs?

Haven't opened ecu yet to see if damaged that yet :/

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PostPosted: 08 Sep 2012, 21:27 
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today got some second hand ISC motors. ones where the coils read ok, new ones are about $120.
couldn't justify spending that on one because i wasn't 100 % that was the problem
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Removed old one
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old one was full of oil, much like rest of the t.b. i should've stripped the whole thing :(
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swapped it over still the same, swapped the green and white wires back to jap pin outs
still idles sheet. and smells like burning :(
played with the idle screw a bit
think for memory screw it in and that lowers the idle
and screw it out and makes the idle faster?
didnt seem to help at all.

last thing ill try changing the fuel reg had diff part number on the one on the auspec
rail.

other than that think it needs to see a motor doctor :(

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PostPosted: 09 Sep 2012, 11:33 
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Marc,
How does the engine idle without the ISC connected?

You should be able to adjust the idle with the bypass screw.......screw it out to raise the idle.


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PostPosted: 09 Sep 2012, 16:13 
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Actually 2nd time I tried it I forgot to put
Loom connector back on the isc seem to idle the
Same.

My sigma has a tr magna efi conversion
The isc on that looks identical. When I
Metered that to check coils I found that one was
Open on that one. So replaced that one. Hopefully
Fix my weird idle probs in the sig.

But anyway with the cordia there is a rubber
Thingo in the where the end of the isc
Goes into throttle body. Should that be in there?
Every magna I've checked including my efi sig didn't have it
Is it possible somone plugged it up?

The car it was off they moded the throttle body elbow to have
Pipe on it that was going to fuel lines I think
For memory. No idea what they were trying to do.

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Umm timing was done when ran it in on
Dyno. Hopefully haven't knocked anything.
Is Timing adjustment done with the crank angle sensor?
I only undid one bolt to take the throttle
Body bracket and marked the position with texta
Doesn't look it's moved. Vac could be possible
I'll check when got chance. I plugged up the
Emission nipples on the throttle body for
Now to make sure evthing worked before
Putting all the solenoids. Maybe it's something
Simple like one is leaking.

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